wwillson Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 In my quest to find a pistol powder that will meter well with me Lee Pro Auto Disk powder measure, I called Hodgdon today and asked them. I described the problem I am having with the smaller volume cavities with Clays and Universal Clays. I told him that I was primarily interesting in reloading 9mm, 40S&W, and 45ACP. He didn't even hesitate when he recommended Titegroup. He said, (I'm paraphrasing) "it's the cat's meow for metering in those calibers and as an all around powder". Does anyone have experience with Titegroup - cleanliness, muzzle flash, metering, amount of smoke when shooting in indoor ranges, etc?Thanks,Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crashbox Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 I've used it almost exclusively for my .357 Magnum since I took up reloading a couple of months ago. It meters very well (after the first few charges thrown when you load the hopper) and the muzzle flash isn't bad, either (comparing to 2400). I found it is very clean-burning as well which would be a notable plus for an autoloader.About the only drawback is that charge weights are smallish, therefore you do need to keep a very close eye out for double-charging.If you can afford it I would buy a pound of it and try it out.Just my observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwillson Posted January 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 I'm going to get some and try it out. I've read lots of good things about Titegroup, hopefully it will pan out.Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSharp Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 WSF and Power Pistol might be other choices. I don't know how Power Pistol measures through the Lee measure, but WSF works great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtell Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Wayne,Titegroup is a great 9mm powder. However, it smokes like a freight train with lead bullets. In 45 ACP it gives good accuracy with jacketed bullets but is a fairly dirty powder. These are just a couple of observations from when I tried out a pound of TG powder. I have since gone to VV- N320 for 9mm and 45 ACP. I also use Win 231 (for both 9mm & 45 ACP) when I can't find the N320.Xtell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwillson Posted January 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Xtell,To bad you weren't a bit closer. The last time I was at our wholesaler he had several pallets of VV powder, I could pick you up some.Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryinIN Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Xtell is right about Titegroup smoking with cast, I bought 8 lbs of it right before switching to mostly cast in the 9mm. Had I known how smoky it would be, I would have done more comparing before ordering so much.To be fair though, several other powders smoke a lot more with cast than jacketed. My old pal Winchester 231 is one of the worst. People will say it's not the powder, but rather the bullet lube burning off. I agree it's from the lube, but it's more prevalent with some powders than others so I'm convinced powder does have an effect on the lube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwillson Posted January 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Have you found a powder that smokes less with lubed bullets?Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryinIN Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I've been using Herco some, and sometimes I think it's better and sometimes not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtell Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Wayne,Pallets of VV powder! Thats something I'd like to see at the suppliers in my area. It's hit or miss on the VV N320 powder around me but it works so well in my reloads that when I find it I tend to drain my wallet.Xtell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtell Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 BarryinIN,Have you ever tried Accurate - Solo 1000? Some of the guys at the range I go to seem to like it with cast bullets. I never tried it though.Xtell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryinIN Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 No I have not. I have seen it mentioned enthusiastically here and there, but never tried it. I tried Herco on a similar endorsement. I didn't hear of it used much in handguns (mostly for shotgun) but when I did, they were pretty emphatic it was a must-try. I like it so far, although I'm finding it takes quite a bit less than all the data says in order to reach velocity and pressures. I like VV powders too. They are just so expensive and sometimes harder to get. The most accurate loads I've ever come up with in 9mm used N330, which I don't think they even sell anymore. I got some for a reasonable price when a gun shop was quitting VV powders. I wish I had bought more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwillson Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Yesterday had a chance to fire 200 rounds of the 9mm Titegroup loads I loaded a couple months ago. Hodgdon says, "this powder provides flawless ignition" and is "clean burning". I found my loads to be extremely consistent and clean as they advertise. The pistol had virtually no more residue than it did before shooting these loads. I did find the powder to be very smokey, but that really doesn't matter to me. I'll take the smoke when the powder has as consistent ignition as Titegroup does.Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtell Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Wayne,Good to hear that Titegroup is working for you. Are you using TG just with cast bullets or did you try some jacketed bullets as well? With the jacketed bullets you will note that the smoke is minimal to non-existant. Xtell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwillson Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 xtell,Funny thing is that I shot 100 molly coated cast bullets and 100 jacketed bullets. The molly coated bullets did smoke more, but I can only attribute the increase in smoke to a smaller charge of powder, as the molly certainly wouldn't make more smoke. The jacketed bullets did not smoke as much, but there was still some smoke.Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryinIN Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I found moly coated bullets to be smoky too. It was enough that other shooters at an IDPA match commented on it and laughed at my so-called "black powder" loads. This was when I using Win 231 powder, which is smoky anyway, so the two together added up I guess. I don't remember any cast loads smoking as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Other options would be AA5 or HS-6, both are ball powders and meter like water. I can't say that I shoot many lead bullets but for accuracy with plated or max loads with jacketed bullets, these are the best I've used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwillson Posted April 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I shot my last 100 moly coated 9mm bullets over Titegroup this weekend. I truly don't understand why they smoke so much, but I was accused of loading black powder! Shooting jacketed with Titegroup produces about 1/10th as much smoke. I can't explain why.Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNFAL308 Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 Been tinkering some with TITEGROUP the last month or so..I like the small charges as it certainly yields more loaded rounds per LB.. Kinda hoping this powder would be a good option and it does seem to be viable since it is pretty versitile. I like that it meters well, and does seem to work in both 9MM and .40 S&W.. I don't have an issue with smoke when using Jacketed bullets but did notice it when shooting my Lead bullets in my 9MM ammo..At this point I'm not sure I will replace my current Old Standby (W-231) though because so far aside from the yield potential my results have not shown a significant enough improvement to justify it..My thought is this might be an excellent powder to have in the powder stores since it is so versitile.. Gotta be something said for these small charges helping stretch the budget so to speak..Maybe I've used the powders I like for so long I'm a bit biased but the results speak for themselves.. W-231 is a GREAT powder.. But so is WST, & Unique, heck I have also had good results with HS-6 and would not hesitate to suggest any of these powders for experimentation.My .45 ACP load consists of the H&G #68 200 GR LSWC atop a charge of W-231.. This load will consistantly shoot one ragged hole if I do my part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannow Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 Is that one of the Aussie made powders that Hogdon sell ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwillson Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Is that one of the Aussie made powders that Hogdon sell ? Titegroup is made in the USWayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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