Trapper

Pablo, I'm sure you know that a scout rifle is suppose to be short to swing easily. Light for long carry periods. And low in maintenance. Unless you are just in love with the cross breed Ruger, might take a look at the Remington Model 7. It's lighter than the published specs of the Ruger and shorter. Considering the synthetic stock and stainless version, it's about as "scout" of a rifle as there is for a bolt gun.

It's not correct to say a primer is hotter although it seems that's the way most folks refer to primers. The difference is the brisance of the primer. Brisance is defined as follows: The rapidity with which an explosive develops its maximum pressure is a measure of the quality known as brisance. A brisant explosive is one in which the maximum pressure is attained so rapidly that the effect is to shatter any material in contact with it and all surrounding material. Magnum primers have more brisance.

The only exposure I've had to this round is a friend that has an Encore chambered for it. I hate to admit to being a wuss but that's a little much for me. I see no need for such an animal.

Jeez, that reads just like the advertising crapola from a motor oil maker. They say it was submerged for 18 months. Most likely, submerged in the fluid there was little to no oxygen available to form the rust. I've not used the product but I don't leave any ammonia products in my barrels more than an hour tops. Normally, I don't use any ammonia products to remove copper fouling. I use non chlorinated brake cleaner. While it is a great solvent and removes all of the powder residue instantly, the cold and the dissimilar metals makes the copper fouling get loose. A real tight dry patch after spraying removes any lead or copper fouling. Caution though, the cleaner can soften and remove the finish from a wood stock.

Pablo, I have a 10" Ruger match target and I shoot the conversion more than it. The Kimber conversion I have is more accurate. Not saying the Ruger won't shoot match quality groups, just the Kimber is that good. I also get to practice with the 45 trigger for competition shoots where knowing the break of the trigger is everything. Don't count the conversions out. FWIW, my brother has an ACE and he also has a conversion of a different brand that I don't remember the name. The Kimber out shoots all of his. Maybe it's the target trigger on the Grand Raptor or maybe the Raptor fits our hands better, I don't know. But it's nice to shoot with little to no recoil and then slip on the 45ACP slide and nothing but recoil changes. It's certainly improved my 50 yd pistol marksmanship.

Can't say for a Glock but I bought a Kimber conversion for my Grand Raptor. With match ammo it will shoot with a match rifle at 25 yds with a barely ragged hole common. At 50 yds it spreads out to about 1 1/2" group. It's a hoot to shoot and if you want to learn the trigger on that Glock, the conversion makes for a cheap lesson learned.

Okay, I'm bored. So I thought I would ask for those loading 158 lead bullets in the 357 mag, what loads are favorites? I got some 158 RNFP bullets from Renegade which is a local caster, a real nice, well cast bullet. For powder I've got lots of Unique, Green Dot, H110, 2400, and 231. Just looking for accurate plinkers to run out of the Pythons.

I think I hate you...........no, after careful consideration, I know I hate you. But I love yer Colt.

I don't see the need for a 22 only 1911 platform when you can buy the Kimber conversion for about 200 bucks. I have one of the conversions and it's almost rifle accurate with the right ammo. Why buy a 22 only when you can have both. Also makes for "learning" the trigger for the 45 slide using the cheaper 22 ammo.

I have no clue what BITOG has to do with the thread here but I don't have to justify any gun purchase to the other half. Her dad built custom rifles, had a blueing tank, did gun smithing, and was on the Board of Directors of the NRA years back in the Neal Knox era. Her philosophy is put the money they want for the gun in one hand and the gun in the other hand. Put down the one you don't want. She'd rather buy guns than groceries. Nope, she's not for rent or trade.

I'm using Rustban from Enjay Chemical out of Houston. It's supposedly designed for offshore drilling rigs and is made by ESSO. I've used it on a Mossberg 500 while at the coast and the gun has been under the salt water a few times. It has zero rust on it and never has had any. It does leave a slight film that you can see if you look for it. It is an almost colorless liquid about like water. I think I paid less than $10.00 for a quart of it years back. It goes a LOONNGG way. Get a rag damp with it and you can do about 20 rifles with it. As far as I'm concerned, there is nothing else better.

I have a hard time liking any Nikon scope. I've got one but it's not the particular model you're looking at and I just can't like it. Of the many scopes in the vault room, it's by far the worst. I do not like the side focus. I've become lazy I guess and having to jack with for every shot is just plain stupid. My others just set it and forget it but not the Nikon. It's not near as clear as some of the cheap scopes and forget low light conditions. Mine is 4.5-14 power. I have a Burris of the same power that is much, much clearer and will go easily into low light conditions. I like it much better than the more expensive Leupolds that I have. I even like the cheap Millett 6-18 scope I bought for less than $70.00 than any Nikon I've ever looked thru. The Millett is another one- set the focus and forget it. It far, far clearer than any Nikon and works in low light. I'd keep looking before buying a Nikon.

While I understand Hatcher was in good position to record some of "his" findings, he's not a favorite of mine. I guess his support of the Pedersen rifle and lack of interest in the Garand is probably it for me. But to support a rifle that had a toggle action like a Luger and ammo that required lubrication so it would load is not exactly my idea of intelligent. But thanks many times for the link. I'll be spending a good amount of time reading his notebook and some of the other articles as well.

Well I'll stick my opinion in here. I don't think of any military rifle when describing a gun as a scout. The first thing that comes to mind a trapper version of a lever gun. It's light, easy to swing, easy to carry, decent capacity, and has enough power to kill most game in the area. In Texas a 30-30 is more than enough power to for hunting or for protection. As kids we used to have to carry a gun but I really don't remember why but my step dad was adamant about leaving the house with a gun. I had a Marlin trapper version of the 336 that I carried tons of miles. It was my scout gun. If I were to go see my brother at Laredo where seeing a drug dealer in the brush is common, a lever gun is far better than a bolt gun if you have a clue how to use it. It beats a heavier military rifle too.

Glad ya dropped by. I can always use another guys experience with the steel. It was probably me that had the issues at the "other" website. I really didn't like the site anyway. I thought there was a lot of arrogance and down talking from a select few that was not tolerated from the general masses. Regardless, make sure to put this site on yer daily travels. Hopefully we can get this thing mojivin' and learn from each other.