Bill_in_Utah

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Thought so! Did you get a chance to shoot either at a range? Looking forward to the report! Bill

Wayne.. Sorry about not commenting on this. I add a few steps but only to make it easier. 1. Tumble the brass and inspect for cracked necks (seems to be more often than any other caliber that I load) 2. Take a .40 S&W carbine sizer die and size 3. Take the .357sig sizer die (steel so lube needed IF I used it to size the WHOLE cartridge) and size the neck. NO LUBE needed. (I also punch the primer out here) 4. Take the expander die and bell the case. Put primers in this step 5. Charge the case. Verify load 6. Place bullet in case and adjust for OAL. 7. Either crimp with seating die or use Factory crimp die. (use the FCD most of the time) If you don't size with the .40 S&W then lube is the rule. I prefer not to deal with it unless I HAVE to. Like the .223 and up. Thanks, Bill

Wayne, Do not go shoot a SR9c at a rent a range. Why? Because you'll buy it! Just got back and I took my unbiased 16 year old daughter with me (she has quite a bit of experience) to also judge the pistols. I had her shoot; Ruger P89 Ruger SR9C Ruger P90 Ruger LCP S&W M&P 40 full size Browning Buckmark and her Ruger MKii 6 7/8 She also shot my Dad's Kel-Tec P11 and his Taurus M85 snub She liked the M&P the best, close 2nd the SR9C, Her MKII, then the P89/P90, Buckmark then the LCP. Hated the Kel-Tec and really does not like snub nose guns. For me, I have to say I love the SR9C. Better trigger than the M&P (slightly but better) and accurate as they get. Also like the adjustable rear sight! Recoil was well controlled and with both size mags fired flawless. Put 200 rounds through it. 150 115gn FMJ reloads then 50 of my 124gn lead lighter loads. Nice gun. For the price its a REAL nice gun. I'm afraid to let my wife shoot it (even though my Daughter came in the house and told her that Dad's new gun is a real nice gun) as she would prob want one to carry instead of her J frame. She has been wanting something that she does not have to carry a speed loader with her. Its the best 9mm striker type gun I've used. It is a keeper. (I think either my P89 or P85 MarkII will be for sale sooner than later) The glock type weapons have come a long ways since the first Glocks! Bill

I'll be taking it out either this afternoon or tomorrow. Bill

Hey Wayne! Went to the gun show... Guess what?

I know the feeling... Been searching the factories for one that will do the job but may have "issues" (like a dent). No luck yet. So the cheaper ones end up outside the safe.

Keep the 10/22. Get the M&P. Both are better. Never sell a 10/22 esp an older one. Bill

Depends on the day... And I've got one weapon that I can not get a load to come out of it anywhere accurate. Even factory loads the best I can do is keep them on paper. Bill

Good choice! I think you'll like it better than the 22/45. I sure like my MkII. And the Ruger's work with most ammo. The Browning's are ammo sensitive I've found. Range report with photos is expected! Take care, bill

I really never felt it was bad to start off with but I guess it gets better. If anything the trigger seems to get slightly lighter... A striker will never be a 1911 or S&W revolver trigger. Any of my M&P's triggers are a ton better than any of my Glock's when I had them. I've got an easy 5000 rounds in my .40 S&W full size and I LOVE that gun.. (okay, I love all my firearms) Here is a NRA 25yd slow fire pistol target which I had around 75-80 feet and I shot 8 rounds rapid fire. Load was 3.8gn Clays with 175gn SWC lead and Fed primer. I had just put this up and shot it 5 times (2 of those shots are to the lower left covered up with masking tape) Once I saw where I was shooting (a little cool with the !@#$^ wind and dumb Bill forgetting something to wear) I fired off the 8 shots. BTW: I loaded these rounds 5-28-1993 according to my loading tag. Twice fired brass which means that they were fired before in one of my Glocks. Good day out at the range. Picked up a trash can full of hulls, cans and other garbage, got thanked by the Sheriff driving by (talked to him for a hour) and anytime out at the range is good time! Fired other stuff but this thread is about M&Ps! Take care, Bill

I've shot both the XD (and XDm) and M&Ps. I've got a "few" M&Ps as I like them better. For ME they shoot better, parts are easier to get (I just bought a .357sig barrel for my .40 S&W and WOW! ) and most of all, with today's PC world all it takes is one SINGLE signature (NOT A LAW) to stop all parts and XD pistols from coming into the US. I went from Glocks (which are excellent weapons) to the S&W M&P which for ME are a better weapon. The M&P 9mm are 17+1 BTW.. Take care, Bill

5 years? That's nothing. I've got powder and primers that are a easy 20 years (and when a brick of primers was $7.99 and 1 lb of powder was $10.99 - Oh I miss those days) and have used powder that was opened that long ago just last week. As long as its dry and kept in a reasonable temp area, it will outlast you. Take care, Bill

I have to agree. A .22lr AR-15 type of rifle is just too much fun! Sad that the same Fed 22lr bulk that we bought less that $9 for 550 rounds is close to/over $20 now... In less than 2 years! Still, while not as much of a value.. STILL a deal! Bill

I LIKE that. In some places that mailbox is so non-PC it would be on the news in a sec. (The poor children being influenced in a wrong way to what a big gun so the owner is compensating for something else that is small) Love the detail! Thanks for the photo. Bill

Went out this am and exactly what I did. I've got 3 large laundry softener jugs that I use to fill the soda cans. Hit them right where it counts and they peel away. Almost as fun as hitting the milk jugs with the .357mag 125gn HP or 240gn .44mag rounds. Vaporize is the rule there. Good times! Bill

Excellent! Let us know how the Henry does. I've got 2 and they BOTH shoot far to the right. One is so bad that I put on a scope and could not get it zero'd. Its going back to Henry and once I get it back, I'll send the other one in (I scoped it and it shoots great) Let us know! Bill PS; Agree with the at least one. I've got a few in .22lr, a .357 and .44mag. Fun Fun Fun (and milk jugs go SPLAT.. About 75 of them yesterday)

I've got a few samples of both and I love the Marlin for the tube feed (can't loose the mag) and being more accurate out of the box. The Ruger is a little less picky with ammo and you can spend some serious $$ making it less reliable and a little more accurate. Both are excellent weapons. Everyone should own both and more! Bill

Most 22lr rifles are excellent! To name a few; 10/22 Marlin Model 60 Marlin 981T Marlin 39a Browning BL-22 Savage bolt So many! I like the Henrys but both of mine have issues with shooting right. One the scope can be adjusted but the other one has (NEEDS) to go back to the factory. I can not adjust the scope enough to put it on paper! I've always had a "few" 22lr but since the idiot was elected I've started shooting them as ammo is cheaper than other stuff. Even at $15 for a brick.. (thankfully I've got plenty of ammo bought at cheaper prices. But am stocking on the higher priced stuff since I doubt anything is going to get cheaper)

+1 My $117 Savage without the accu trigger is a VERY accurate weapon. It has mounted a 3x9 rimfire Bushnell scope (like most of my other Rimfire rifles) and its a great weapon. I also like the plastic stock as its a throw around weapon at times. Bill

I've seen a few with factory loads. Mostly with Glocks and once with a Beretta. In all but one, the firearm took the hit. One with a Glock the shooter took a piece of brass in the face (remember those shooting glasses guys!) The Beretta was with a +P+ 9mm load. (corbon load) the Glocks with .40 S&W and one with a .45acp

I HAD a Dillon 550 and while it produced a lot of ammo I did not like finding loaded rounds without primers. I've found dozens and it did not matter what caliber or brand of primer. Dillon tried to help and their customer service is very good. But in the end, not worth it to me. Sold everything (had the tool heads for each caliber, Dillon dies, etc) and bought a few Lee Classic cast single and turret presses. Have not looked back.

That is what I've found with the .223 LUBE is the RULE.. (don't skimp) Pull the bullets and start over would also be my suggestion. Bill

Can't have enough guns!

That would be correct. Nice scope (I have a few of them on other rifles)