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Workmate has 4x32 on it at the moment, and while fine for roos, is struggling with birds at 65m...think pigeon and up. He's after reccomendations, as being a little out of the ordinary, it will have to be brought in, rather than looking at stuff on the shelf.

Is that one of the Aussie made powders that Hogdon sell ?

Yeah, the swiss cheese analogy works nearly every time...the more layers of protection, the less likely all the holes are to line up and lead to an injury. Good of him to show the world 'though.

I had glasses when I started target shooting back in the late 90s. I could not believe the improvement in my sight when I had to start actually exercising my eyes...rear sight, foresight, target...repeat...repeat....repeat. This is a good resource. http://www.i-see.org/perfect_sight/

Lithgow is pretty proud of it's heritage. First iron smelter in the country, first copper smelter, oldest inland theatre, and particularly the SAF (Small Arms Factory) that made every rifle used since the SMLE (bar some of the AR types the Specials use). So proud that we've got streets named after stuff Musket Parade Enfield Avenue Martini Parade Rifle Parade...etc (there's Villiers, Lone Pine, Tobruk and other famous battle too). Had AGM at the range yesterday, and were advised that in September 2012, a weekend will be devoted to the history of firearms in the district, starting with demonstrations the Brown Bess (our rifle club was founded in 1888, before teh factory existed here), Lee Enfields (made here), L1A1, various machine guns made here, Brens, L2A2, Vickers'etc. This lot will be attending http://www.lighthorse.org.au/ for demonstrations, and we'll have target shooting demos. Sounds like it will be a blast.

Good call. http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2241366#Post2241366 although the camera that I took the last few pics got stolen off my dinner table at 3AM Sunday morning a few weeks ago.

G'Day, I shoot on the range that they built and commissioned all the Aussie L1A1s, and played with them some when I was in Air Training Corps (Cadets). There's some neat ones at the Small Arms Factory Museum, including various timbers, a monster funtioning cutaway action, and a handful of pistonless single shots that were attempting to become target rifles when the .303Brit and SMLE was phased out of our local competition. Single shot L1A1 complied with the laws at the time, but as they weren't surplus and cost full price so to speak, the project was still born and aftermarket rifles became the target norm.

Man, I remember that name from the Shooters' Online BB from years ago.

Given the eley thread (and the lack of comment on Paco's accuriser), thought I'd give some comment on something that I found entertaining some years ago (BC before children). Rim thickness - made a rim thickness guage out of a .223 case, neck trimmed square, and a vernier (yep, not digital) caliper. Took a brick of Winchester subsonic (hollowpoint) .22s, and over a slow evening, sorted them for rim thickness...shot the extreme ends of the spectrum off a bench, and they would consistently group at slightly different POIs...noticeable enough that throwing a thin one in with a bunch of thicks would look like a flier. Dunno the physics, whether it was firing pin crush and hence timing, or less headspace and case rock on the thicker ones. Diameter - mucked around measuring bullet diameter not much variance, until the aforementioned Olin off brand, when I found that the pistol rounds were .224+, versus .223(ish) for the rifle rounds. Rifle liked the pistol rounds a bit more than the rifle for otherwise same performance. Got a Paco Kelly tool, and found that .2245 was pretty good. Not sure whether it was the slightly flatter nose (cut neater targets for sure), or the diameter, but going flatter didn't make it shoot better, so surmised that maybe the diameter was the issue. Final "field fix" that worked pretty OK for volume shooting was to get the little Winchester "cradle" type plastic box inserts (way better than when .22 was packed "nose to tail"), and dip the lead end into a 2:1 gum turpentine (I had it), and Liquid Alox (works great on 4wd turn stops too)...Dunk and dry, dunk and dry...Can do a brick with little effort.

Textbook of Small Arms details a process of producing ammunition, testing it, and sending the most consistent wrt timing and velocity to aircraft machine gun use (think shooting through propeller, and wanting the bang to be the same every time) I read ages ago in a (local) gun rag that CCI did that with green and blue box...same product, just one more consistent than the other and with the barrel time in a .22, consistency needs to be good. But on the equipment, Olin make Winchester ammo in Oz...about a decade ago, Olin produced a cheaper product, apparently in competition with their Winchester offerings. Looked identical, bar the headstamp. Investigation showed that they were using the old gear for the off brand, after it had been through the various "premium"/non premium products. My Krico loved their pistol match, which was produced with an extra thou or two of bullet diameter.

Given that the priming compound in a .22 is such a large percentage of the total burn, it, it's consistency, and it's volume are hugely important to giving consistent and good accuracy. When I was a kid, eley (sub solids and sub HPs) gave me the filthiest barrels of anything I tried, but seemed accurate enough. Haven't played much with them, as even CCI blue box down here are $55-60 a brick.

Will have to take some. Been struggling to get to the range for the last few years (to shoot, other than do admin). Moved on from turbines, and now seem to have a whole lot more free time to read, and enjoy my shooting again.

A while back I posted that I'd bought a Rossi matched pair in .22/12Ga... It wasn't strictly what I wanted. H and R weren't coming into the country at that point, and for a combo, I'd prefer a .410, which was only available with .22Mag (thus my idea of using the 12ga bits to make 9mm). We have a single shot comp, for strict single shot open sights. The rossi has fibre optic front sight, and the break action is ideal for one round with 5 shots in 45 seconds, where fumbling around with feeding ramps in bolt actions, and cocking firing pins It went down a treat, everyone wanted a play. Pretty ammo tolerant, CCI bluebox, Lapua Club and Winchester sub hollow points all shooting to the same POI at 60 yards, and keeping me inside the 4 ring (our blacks are 4, 5, V)...even stingers were about 1.5 minute of coke can at 130(ish) yards with the 60 yard sight set-up. Had an absolute ball shooting the simplest, cheapest rifle in my collection. Great rifle for teaching children too...I will be in 4 years or so when my daughter reaches legal age.

I'm a goofy foot (Right handed, left footed), and don't see really well in 3D normally. Can move eyes independently if I need to. I shoot both eyes open, right eye on the sights (scope, or open), and left on the target at range. Helps in not cross shooting other's targets by not seeing the context/backdrop of the target. Helps be range aware (although really that's the range officer's job), and adds a "red dot" type of superposition of images.

Hmmm, American Eagle .223 was $18.00 (for 20)at the shop today, while 9mm was $23 for 50...looks viable as a fun toy.

Can hear the minis and the M2s at the range here in town when the army lads are playing

Fairly commonly used term (probably daily in my workplace), used when some-one appears to be extremely busy, but accomplishing squat...often when they are out of their depth, but don't want to show it. http://mirror.uncyc.org/wiki/Farnarkling http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=farnarkling

A while ago, I bought a Rossi "Matched Pair" .22LR with a spare 12ga barrel....would have rathered .410 (clubmate knows how to make brass .410 out of .303 cases), but the 12 gauge was all that was offered. Could sell the rifle 5 times a trip to the range, as with our single shot comps, the break action ejecting brass over the shoulder, and the ease of loading versus farnarkling around with a single round down the breach of a bolt action has made it a range favourite. Was having a wonder the other day... Part of the reason that I (and others) chose certain rifles in .223 wasn't the match chambering, but the military chambering. Which got me thinking as to the worthiness of 9mm in a break action single shot, and what my local gunsmith ,might be able to achieve with my spare, prolly never to be used 12 gauge block. Can shoot at my local range (10mm limit), can play subsonic, supersonic, and WTSHTF, people will be carrying it around.

Bear in mind that the ogive of the projectile and the chamber reamer affects how much "jump" to the rifling...go too long, with too rounded an ogive, and you can bump the rifling (unlikely in your case) increasing pressure at the other end. Most of the serious reloaders that I know make up an overall length guage from an old case, drilled and tapped to take a fine brass thread, and push the projectile through until it touches the rifling...then back their loads off a little to give their desired jump. Military chamberings are unlikely to ever have such an issue...my CZ527 I can put a 62 gr FMJ in BACKWARDS and not touch the rifling. Still shoots fine, 'though.

Yep, it was her Majesty's something or other.

Went to the Library after work and tried to find the book in question. I believe that it is the Textbook of Small Arms, although can't be sure until they get it out of storage for Wednesday arv. As to the greased cartridges, IIRC, one of the SMLE tests was to fire a MkVII service cartridge out of a rifle with no threads holding the barrel to the receiver sans seperation... Will reconfirm if the book I'm thinking is the one that shows up Wednesday.

Sorry, I agree that Plagiarist was probably too strong a word.

At the start of the book, he states that he has a number of books that he referred to, and wanted to compile one volume that contained everything. Here in Lithgow, we (were) blessed with a great, gun friendly library. Used to have an area called the stack which was full of the "obsolete" books...alas, the stack is lost, and you need to request books by title/ISBN, and as "you don't know what you don't know", and can no longer browse by spine, is no longer a resource. Two that come to mind reading Hatcher are one on the development of the SMLE, and .303 british cartridge, about 700 pages of good guts. Lots and lots of internal/external ballistics, bullet shapes, CofG manipulation with wood/aluminium tips, volley discussions/improvements, timing issues for machine guns and propellor driven planes etc. Hatcher's work on improving the .30 cal external ballistics seems to (obviously) borrow some from the Brits. The other was a book written by another brit on the .22LR, and it's potential use for national defence when all of the military rifles are in Continental Europe. Alas, both names escape me at the moment. BTW, I'm not dissing Hatcher, sometimes someone needs to bring all of the strings together to move a subject matter forwards. As to castpics, it's a great resource...It's even got my recipes on it. http://www.castpics.net/Recipes/Harrissa.html http://www.castpics.net/Recipes/SourDough.html

Thanks for a free version. He's a tad of a plagiarist 'though...

Saw Cooper's Scout rifle concepts, and never once thought of it as a military concept as his original intent, but also saw that being chambered in a fairly common military round, and very portable, it would be a useful piece of kit in a period after TSHTF. I know it spawned quite a few SMLE "Jungle Carbine" relicas in Oz, but .303 British makes it a joke... However, the AIA "jungle" carbines would make a great Oz scout...although .223 would take care of most Oz "game" south of the Tropic of Capricorn. http://www.australianinternationalarms.com.au/tests.htm