Shannow

Was a member there ages and ages ago - logan back in those days. Any old Shooter's Online castaways ? I know where the cast bullet guys (Catman etc.) migrated to. OKShooter was a huge resource, and Ken Howell was legend. Where are they now ? Any others here ?

State election coming up, and there's the Greens calling for tightening handgun restrictions... [censored] for and why ? You can't own the for self defence/offence (unless in the League of Distinguished Gentlemen who can have them legally in your top desk drawer). You can't hunt with them anywhere in the country. They can exist in your safe, in your remote alarmed house, or at the range...period. So what on Earth does it have to do with the Greens ?

I'm not sure of the various origins of events, but they get played for maximum effectiveness. Two shooters, 1 killed, 1 captured, turns into lone gunman (not Port Arthur, a more recent one), and then an official story that resembles nothing possible.

he round up was a voluntary amnesty, where compensation was made for semi long arms, and pump shotguns at "market" prices. Much compensation was paid for stuff that was already illegal to try to flush them out of the black market. Bloke in that video I posted was silly enough to have an illegal arsenal, then belt up his wife.

The history of air rifles is long and extensive. If you were found "sniping" with an air rifle, versus a flash-boom-smoke pole, your end was not a pretty one.

Hi guys, have been asked to post it here as well. Background When I was a kid, I wanted to be a gunsmith, and a good one. Got my first .22 (Krico) at age 15. At the time, almost anything was legal, although to own an SLR in the most of the states, you had to be a professional culler of vermin (wild cattle etc.)...Queensland and Tasmania allowed ownership of SLRs and AR15s. The other states stopped at SKS etc. Personal Protection has never been considered a "Genuine Reason" to own a firearm, all applications were to be "sporting" (unless you are rich and famous, and there's another set of laws). At the time, the then Premier of NSW was pushing for a complete and utter ban of all privately owned firearms. He took it to an election, and got annihilated ... His made a speech in 1987, which included the line "There will never be National Firearm Laws until there is a massacre in Tasmania" Decided not to be a gunsmith, and chose a career that I thought at the time I could least retire from. In 1996, about 6 weeks after Britain's Dunblane Massacre, I was driving, and listening to the radio, when news came across of a massacre at Port Arthur in Tasmania, with 35 people killed. Said to my Mrs, who was in the car..."There goes private gun ownership" Massacre was allegedly performed by a bloke called Martin Bryant, a scarcely functioning mental deficient, one of whose alleged weapons was an AR15 which had been handed in to the Police in an amnesty in another state some years prior. In approximately a minute with this rifle, he killed 20 people, 19 head shots, wounded 12 others, firing from the hip, in an enclosed building sans hearing protection...and 29 shots fired(*) National outrage of course. Thousands of pages of legislation were wheeled out within weeks, much of it must have been waiting in the wings given the timeliness. Prime Minister "met" sporting shooters, wearing a bullet proof vest (illegal to own in the country), and we got rolled. All semi-auto longarms illegal, all pump shotguns illegal. Oz' famous gun buyback took place, a 0.2% tax placed on every worker...a legally owned 10-22, or mini 14 would get you $150-$200 back.An illegally owned SLR L1-A1 many thousands, as they tried to flush the big hitters out of the black market. Statistics have shown a reduction in firearm homicide (admittedly starting at a massacre will help that trending), but if you look really closely, it's mostly suicides that are trending away from unavailable guns...they are still suiciding, just with ropes, ledges, cars etc. (*) other strange co-incidences on the issue. - Tasmania purchased a morgue bus at one stage capable of holding over 20 bodies. It got used but once. - Local Police were called away to investigate a white powder, ensuring they couldn't get there. - ASIO/ASIS personnel happened to be holidaying in the area en masse, and were recalled from their holidays to assist the investigation. - (alleged) Perps mug shot was on television that night, even though he was under arrest and charged...no contempt of court. - Witnesses stated that the bloke with the long blonde hair was not the one in the cafe. - A royal commission (our highest review) was rejected as putting victim's families through too much - The case, and everything pertaining to it is under "D notice", unavailable for national security reasons.

Not that it's a semi, but if I was in the market for another .22, I'd certainly get one of these...A CZ 455. Made so that you can change barrels and have .22LR, .22WMR, or one of the .17s. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx35hRT92UY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EiGCC2H4sM&feature=related My brother has a 452, I've got an old model 2, and they are awesome rifles.

http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-512/

True, but the the whole Oz gun buyback was an utter disgrace...the locally made semi auto .22 that Lionel Bibby used to trick shoot has by and large been wiped out. Funny how everything seems to have historical significance except firearms. Local small arms factory turned in dozens of Bren guns, and the Govt tried to stop them claiming compensation

Yep, it's sad, Oz gun laws are pretty sad. Like the debate on the other board that shall now be nameless, a lot of regs are arbitrary. Crossbows are illegal in my state, but you can board public transport with a bow...might be hassled, but still legal (moreso than a bullet proof vest, which can be years in jail). The bloke has always been a bit dodgy...last dog I bought was off him, and the writhing pile of poo on my car floor (it was riddled with worms) I shall never forget.

When you've got best part of 1,000 illegal firearms, it doesn't pay to belt your missus.

30-30 and .308 are pretty common around here. Not many pistol calibres unless you count .444 and .45-70

http://www.leverguns.com/store/acurizer.htm Search around a bit for articles on the thing. Ages ago there was a lot of work done around the traps regarding improving the accuracy of standard velocity solids, and IIRC, CCI released some with a flat rather than rounded nose. Lots of us started messing with clipping noses off, and for a while I was filing a small flat on my CCI blue boxes, which seemed to make some difference. Paco also thought that there might be an improvement by increasing the diameter of the projectiles to make them fit a little better, and came up with his "accuriser" to bump up the diameter a thou or two. I bought one at the time, and it makes a flat nose, and mine bumped them up to .224(5), seemed to provide a definite improvement in groups. Lent it to a mate, and haven't seen it for the last 5-6 years. He's using the hollow pointing tool to make .22 semi wadcutter hollow points...reckons you seriously hear them when they connect with rabbits.

Most of the rifles that I've seen with threads were threaded by the local gunsmith(s), without unpinning the barrel...i.e. barrel and action attached...my Krico was partially butchered by one 'though. Down here, you can't go past CZ/Brno...I picked up a 1967 one that is a tack driver. As to ammo, Winchester subsonic are very very accurate in my rifles, about the same groupings as T22s, albeit more expensive. Unless you get the T22s, or CCI blue box ($50/brick down here), and use Paco Kelly's accuriser. http://www.leverguns.com/store/acurizer.htm I've got one of his early versions (ca 10 years old), and was impressed at the work it did on CCI blue box.

Wayne, not with firearms...ultimately he passed after ignoring a fluid build up in one of his legs.

Yep CBE. http://www.castbulletengineering.com/page001.html

Same bloke... our normal competitions are .22s at 30m standing, 60m sitting, and 90m prone. In spite of having a Sako, this guy was all over the shop, a pop here, a bang there, an occasional boom...he was shooting anything that he could get his hands on. I was trying to dispose of a brick of Remington subs that was peppering my face with powder each shot (looked like the cases weren't soft enough to obturate)...I wanted them gone, safely, but he took them, blinking profusely at each shot. A bunch of guys for our Christmas presentation put together odds and sods of Grandad's old stuff. Shorts, longs, copper cases, verdigris et al. In a specially made joke box. Which he shot.

Same bloke, different day, and his Sako .243 is screaming, and needing force to extract (and close as I ultimately found). Wander over while they were checking targets, and pick up a few of his empties. .243 engraved on the side. Look at the base, and the primers are flat as, and the head stamp is 8mm. Enquired as to their origin, and was told that he had a lot of ex mil 8mm cases (with their integral primer striker), and made them into .243 cases. I asked about neck turning, and was met with a blank look. I explained the process, and the case material had to go somewhere, then he told me they were hard to close on, and he had to work DOWN from the starting load in the book. He usually ended up with a lot of free space around him.

We used to have a guy in our club who was renowned as a handloader. He was chronying a 12ga one day, and I wandered over to see how he was going (I was playing rangemaster on a tuning day). Shotgun was an old damascus barrel that he was so proud of, in spite of sloppy/wobbly action...didn't want to waste his skeet gun on development. Velocities were all over the place, which he explained away as needing to perfect his coffee grinder technique...He'd bought bulk flake powder, and it was too slow. He was speeding it up by coffee grinder...saw his reloading bench, and there was a gallon glass jar full of green powder that looked like a sedimentary banded rock of all of the different burn rates that he prepared on different days.

It's a range template issue, and the reason is bore diameter of 10mm max. The fact that it's a pistol calibre, and slow, doesn't makeup for it's diameter. Anything lazzeroni under 10mm would be legit.

Yep, I missed an ebay .432 Oz made mold that I was going to play with. Range rules meant that I couldn't have dialed it in 'though, so wasn't worth pursuing. Double coating of liquid alox made an improvement, so I think diameter would have fixed it. Thinking of getting an ex-mil (I shoot on the range for the Oz made Lee Enfields, so would like one of those), or a Finish Nagant. Mate has a few good molds for the threeoh, and regular 7.62 with paper is another experiment.

Yep, way too hard to get it over there I reckon. Still for sale, I can't shoot it at our local range anymore. Does yours have microgroove type rifling ? Mine does, and is pretty erratic with plain lead bullets (admittedly, the commercial ones are a tad on the small size 0.427-0.428). Pretty good with brazilian factory stuff....50 shots in a singlet top one afternoon leaves a nice bruise.