dnewton3

No. Sorry for late response.

I, too, can find nothing on the subject. For the price, you have to suspect Tasco or Bushnell, right? But no confirmation anywhere I can find. Most of the Pine Ridge products go anywhere from (sale) prices in the $40 (like the one I got), to up to around $250? That fits neatly in the the two brands I mentioned. And likely made off shore in a developing country. However, all that said, I can't fault my $39.99 scope with rings and mounts included. For my shot range (less than 100 yards), it has held zero and should perform fine.

I've had 1911's, but never anything custom. I got rid of them after some time of ownership. I'm a Glock convert through and through. Obviously these are personal choices, and so no one is "right or wrong" here, but there are so many things I appreciate in a Glock. Accuracy = well more than "good enough" (always qualify at "expert" level at my department, with room to spare) Combat designed = functional under stress (passive safeties) Fewer parts (as much as 50% less than some guns) = simplicity Can be used "as is" = no "custom" features or tuning needed, like a 1911 Not that I don't appreciate the lineage and history of the 1911, or the awesome produts out there in that design. It's just that I don't need a Priceless Princess when Ugly Betty will get the job done. I have always been into function over form. Like I said; it's a personal choice.

Received and mounted over the weekend. Decent scope. 2.5 x 7 in power; enough for ML deer hunting in the woods. Seems to hold it's zero well. Clarity is OK. Light transmission is a bit weak once you start to loose the ambient lighting. Not bad for $39.99 on sale, including the rings and mounts!

Yes, what used to be "attainable" has become silly expensive, but that's the cost of "wants" versus "needs". I bought my two M11/9 SMGs more than 10 years ago, about 6 months apart. Average paid was $700 each back then. I could have bought ten of them and stored them away (I had $$$ and no kids back then ...) Today, NIB, they are going for almost $4500 each!!! Thats more than a 6x increase in cost! But, had I made the investment then, it would have meant 6x return on my money!!! How many of us made 6x our money over the last decade in the stock market? I could have funded my kids college, and had money left over, with that growth rate. As always, hind-sight is 20/20.

As it's often been said ... If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

Anyone have success or failures with the Cabela's Pine Ridge scopes? They were unloading them for a song in a clearance catalog. I bought one (2x7)out of curiosity to put on my Remington Genesis ML. I've been using the fiber-optic sights that came with the gun, but wanted a scope for further distance. Perhaps I scored a great deal; perhaps I got whipped. Won't know until it gets here and I try to sight it in. Was just wondering if others had good/bad experiences with the brand.

Congrats! Passed up a few smaller ones yesterday on my own property. Wish perhaps I had taken the last one; she was reasonable. Being early in the season, I thought prudence and descretion were the manner of the day. Anyway, only slug guns or MLs for us here in IN, unless you count hand guns in legal calibers. Wish we had rifle use as well.

ML (muzzle loaders) very popular in deer hunting, after the traditional firearms season ends. In IN, you can get two more weeks of hunting by using a ML. I have a Remington Genesis in .50 cal; very nice, and very cost effective when bought from Cabelas on clearance.

As I noted in another thread, apparently the BATF is accepting either now. Their website does refer to them as "silencers" now. A rose by any other name ...

What? RP? Can I use RTS? Oh - wait - it's not a "real" synthetic ... J-U-S-T K-I-D-D-I-N-G!

(note - I'm likely biased, so take my answer with a grain of salt) Sheriff's Deputies often cover large vast areas. We have to be all things to all people. In my county, we have shanty-shack trailer parks right down the road from 7-figure estates. Some would call us two-faced if they saw us bounce from joking with Bubba, to hob-knobing with The Man, but it works wonders when you can walk the walk and talk the talk. And for me, I can be just as comfortable in either situation. Overall, I've known some great inner-city cops and some "iffy" deputies. But overall, I'd have to say that most times, Sheriff's Deputies seem to be more level headed. We have strengths and weaknesses just like all people; perhaps we're just better at managing it? Best compliment I ever got? " Man - you're a &*$#@, but at least you're a fair &*$$@ ". Can't ask for more than that ...

Did it do much to the slide?

NOTE - THIS IS A QUOTE FROM THE OFFICIAL INDIANA CODE SITE; THIS ONLY APPLIES TO INDIANA. http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/title35/ar47/ch5.html If you look here, read down to: 35-47-5-8; this states that it's illegal to possess a machine gun in Indiana; class C felony 35-47-5-9; this states that it's illegal to operate a machine gun in Indiana; class B felony 35-47-5-10; exemptions for the two above law; notice it includes all the stuff you'd expect to find (governmental agencies and their officers, military, etc). But look closely at sub-item #7 - that allows for private ownership IF you have the appropriate Federal paperwork (i.e. - the tax stamp and form of transfer). That is how, in IN, you can own certain NFA weapons. In IN, you can own SBRs, MGs, suppressors, and AOWs (any-other-weapons). Notice that you CANNOT own a sawed off shot gun in IN; there is no exemption for that (except for LE and gov official use). So, Wayne, if there is a law that you can find that specifically prohibits the ownership of NFA stuff, then you'll have to find a law exemption in the statute. There is some information I believe to be credible from the BATFE site (I'll try to find it again and post later) that discusses the topic of ownership if you're in a position to reside in one state, but keep the item in a different state. In other words, you can own an NFA item as an IL resident; you likely just can't possess it in IL. You could keep it at my home in IN, and even use it in IN, even as an IL resident! You are required to be the ONLY person that has access to the item; you would have to keep it in a locked container that was only accessible by you. The storage of the item is OK in my home, but the direct access must be only to you. A locked container satisfies that criteria. The real problem is somehow convincing your local LE agency to sign off the federal paperwork; you'd have to convince them that even though you own the item, it would not be kept in the state. Kind of silly, though, because who wants to own something they can't access easily? This methodology is important to those like me, that own NFA items, and would want to keep them in my ownership, if I got transfered to a different state for some short time. I don't want to have to sell stuff just because I got moved for a year or two to a different state. I can even lock them in a safety deposit box in a bank (singularly controlled access!) while I'm away. Then, there is the topic of NFA ownership by corporations and trusts. That's a whole bag of tricks that gets deeply involved by lawyers and paperwork. It can be done, but it's much more involved. There are some advantages, but also some disadvantages. They must be kept used for "security" purposes, and be registered to a licensed company. It gets really deep. Not saying it can't or isn't done; I'm just not one who has the time/money to slug through that mess. Private ownership is legal in IN, so it's easy for me. Further, the transer of my NFA stuff to my heirs is tax exempt; they don't have to pay the $200 per item! Oddly, beleive it or not, that $200 tax hasn't changed since 1934! It's been set at that amount forever! I often wonder if the Congress will see fit to make a huge increase in the transfer tax? That would greatly slow down the transfer of such items from person to person. You'd see a lot more items passed from generation to generation that way (tax free). ************** (edit) Found the link for ownership from another state: see item "M22" http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#m1 Also, for some reason that escapes me, notice that they refer to "silencers" in this site, but my actual From 4 paperwork (both of my tax paid forms) have the word "suppressor" on them, rather than "silencer". Apparently, they are now accepting either as a proper definition. At one time, they discouraged the use of the word "silencer", but perhaps conventional terminology got the better of them. Somewhere in another post, I had mentioned that "suppressor" is the proper term, but I am apparently wrong; the BATFE is now accepting either description, as evidenced by their own use of the word "silencer". A rose by any other name ...

I can tell you from personal experience that Glock specifically states to not use lead in their weapons. I've been through five Glock Armorer certifications now (once every 3 years). Their concern is for the hex-barrel not having relief area (grooves) for lead to express itself into. My neighbor and I reload much of our own ammo. Part of the reason I stick with Cu is because we are non-discript in what we put the reloaded ammo into. I have a couple of SMGs that I also shoot with the same 9mm. You cannot tolerate lead fouling well at 1200 rounds a minute! So, we just stay away from lead all together. At the Sheriff's Office, we only shoot new ammo because of the liability of a public entity having to follow OEM directives. At home, I don't mind reloads at all, but I do ensure they are Cu. And I never shoot my duty weapon at home; that Glock is owned by the Office, so I follow the SOPs to the "T". My own personal Glocks do see reloads, but only quality Cu made stuff by me/neighbor. In no way am I saying it (lead) can't be done. I'm saying that for me, given my training and my scenarios of weapon diversity, it's not something I do. Not worth the risk for me. However, as always, each must analyze their own situation, weigh the risks, and make his/her own individual determination.

Actually, 'soup covered it. I own two suppressors (one 9mm, one .22lr). I own two sub-machineguns (both true select-fire, which is semi-auto, or full auto.) I really enjoy getting people into the sport of NFA stuff. You can get a .22lr suppressor (all costs including tax stamp) for less than $500. Subsonic ammo is around $3/box of 50rnds. I though this subforum might help those that are interested in obtaining such stuff. It would be easier to keep the discussion of the actual weapons in one folder, and the paperwork discussions in another folder. I am not an expert, but between me and a few neighbors, we have about 8 NFA items. More to come, as well. We have a decent knowledge of what you can and cannot do, and what to expect when dealing with the BATFE. They are not the evil force they are always made out to be. I've had many positive dealings with them over the phone and they've been very helpful. They have laws to enforce, and they take that seriously. But if you are patient, and polite, you get a lot of questions answered in a reasonable manner, with satisfaction. Clearly we are not able to offer "legal" advice. But I can tell you what to expect, and what questions to ask, and where to turn to. NFA ownership is goverened by Federal, State and Local laws. Some states allow none. Others are nearly wide open.

As a colloquial term, yes. Technically, by BATFE standards, they are "suppressors". When you fill out the paperwork, I've been told not to refer to them as "silencers" for official designation.

Cannot answer that. My friend is a regular at all the shows; he will not miss one in the IN area. Next time I see him, I'll get details.

My break force isn't too bad, but the rest of the description is spot on. Still - very fun to play with. Inexpensive carbine, that folds very compact. Accuracy is good; would be awesome if not for that trigger set up.

Anyone have one? I like mine, but the trigger travel is outlandish. That must be their idea of an additional safety. You REALLY have to pull the entire stroke; seems as though there is no end, before it finally breaks over. Anyone have any luck with modifications? The effort force is fine; it's the length of pull that I dislike. Other than that, it's a great little carbine.

I, too, really like the GP-100 Ruger, and their little SP-101 counterparts. I have a 4" GP-100 stainless with full lug at home. I'd like to get it tuned a bit for trigger feel. Does anyone know of reputable sources in the mid-west that do such work?

Personnaly I have not, but I spoke with a friend that handled one at the most recent gun show; he was quite impressed. My local stores have not got any new stock in as of yet.

Welcome everyone and anyone! The "NFA" forum is the place to talk about your toys; MGs, SBRs and Suppressors. This sub-forum "paperwork" is the place to ask questions about the costs, ability, effort, legality, etc for transfer forms, travel forms and such. Hope you all enjoy!

Welcome everyone and anyone! The "NFA" forum is the place to talk about your toys; MGs, SBRs and Suppressors. The sub-forum "paperwork" is the place to ask questions about the costs, ability, effort, legality, etc for transfer forms, travel forms and such. Hope you all enjoy!

Hello, all. Own many firearms, including some NFA items. Respect all brands, acknowledging their pro's and con's. As with all things, there is no "best" gun, nor anything else for that matter. There are better selections for given situations, and most often you compromise for the widest fit for multiple applications. Most recently my neighbor and I are getting into reloading, especially 9mm and .45 for the joy of sub-sonic adventures with the suppressors. Looking towards making a small "practical apps" course between our shared property. Hope to be up and functional this spring.