BarryinIN Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 With hunting season underway, I was reminded of this:I have long heard of the practice of putting a square or strip of tape across a rifle's muzzle to prevent snow, water, or other foreign matter from entering when tromping around in the woods. While listening to some friends' hunting tales today, I remembered this experiment I started last winter...and never finished. I posted it elsewhere then, but thought I'd put it up here too.Recently at the gun shop, the subject of taping rifle muzzles (to prevent the entrance of snow, dirt, etc) came up. Soon it became a debate whether it would alter the point of impact. Like many things, everybody had an opinion although nobody had tested it.On my last range visit, I happened to remember that debate and tried it out. I had two types of tape with me: a roll of electrical tape I keep in the truck, and a partial roll of 3M blue painter's tape in my range gear. Bringing that specific 3M tape was unplanned, but I vaguely recall reading once that Alaskan guides recommend that very brand and type for the purpose, though I don't recall why.When I did this, I was actually on vacation in another state and using a range there, so had to make do with what I had with me. I had no rest fixture or sandbags with me, so I cobbled together a front rest using my range bag, and went without a rear bag.I only tested FMJ practice ammo. I wondered if soft points would give a different result, but I didn't want to use up what little soft point ammo I had with me, and I've not seen that tip damage changed the POI at this range before.The rifle used was a Steyr Scout in .308 Winchester.I shot at 100 yards.When tape was applied, it was one strip, approximately 2.5 inches long, centered over the muzzle (horizontally if viewed from the front) then folded back down the barrel. Obviously, I replaced the tape after each shot.I fired:Three rounds with no tape.Three rounds with 3M blue painter's tape.Three rounds with black plastic electrical tape.I shot them into one group. If there was a big shift in POI, I thought it would be obvious and separate targets unnecessary. If the change was slight, then I'd get more serious and repeat the test using separate targets for each group.Here is what I got:Point of aim was 6:00 on the plate. That's not the most precise aiming point with crosshairs, but since the rifle was zeroed high (2" high from prone), I wanted to aim low to ensure the group fell in the plate.The three shots high and right were shot with the black electrical tape on the muzzle.The other six were three shots without tape, and three with 3M blue tape. The one shot to the left was my error and I knew it when it happened. Considering the wiggly rest, I'll consider those shots all in the same group.So from what I could see in this small test:3M blue painter's tape has negligible effect on POI, if any.Black electrical tape might.However...Even if black electrical tape does alter POI, it is not by a whole lot. A couple of inches maybe. If that was the only tape I had when having to wade through snow, I'd use it rather than risk plugging the muzzle by using nothing.I noticed the tape reacted differently. When using 3M blue tape, the bullet made a neat cookie cutter-like hole about the size of the muzzle, otherwise the tape stayed in place. I actually found a couple of blue discs of tape on the ground in front of the bench. When using the black electrical tape, it was severed and thrown off the muzzle so it curled back along the barrel.Those pictures are typical. Every shot looked about the same. Whether that had any connection with the POI difference or not, I don't know, but it was obvious the two tape types reacted differently.I should repeat the test with a steadier rest, using more ammo types, and maybe by orienting the tape different ways, but for now, I'll start keeping a few wraps on 3M tape on the barrels of my "usin' rifles". If I need it, I'll have it.And I won't worry about POI changes from it. Black plastic electrical tape would have been my first choice before, because I'd expect it to be more water resistant. Until I do more testing, I'll go with the blue stuff even if it isn't as durable. If I keep a few wraps around the barrel, I can replace it if it gets damaged. I suppose even if it got soaked, it would still stop big stuff from getting in.The blue stuff is more malleable than the elec tape I had, so I could get a better seal. That should be a plus. I'll try to get some better quality elec tape for the next try. That roll I had was probably dollar store junk. Maybe it will matter, maybe it won't.At work, we had a really moldable tape that we used to seal off pneumatic ducts on the planes when a component was removed. I wish I'd accidentally left some of it in my coat pocket one day, because I'd like to try it for this. Maybe I'll check around with some who are still there and see if they forgot any in their pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLH70 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I always tape the muzzle of my muzzle loader during inclement weather when deer hunting. I have taken several deer while having the muzzle taped and if the POI was altered I have not noticed it. I have always used black electrical too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I would expect electricians tape to have an effect. Sticky, gooey and stretchy. I dunno, I've never seen or heard of anyone doing this. I guess with most tapes not a big deal, but with a little care it's not needed and I've hunted with shotguns in the rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryinIN Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I still shake my head thinking back to the discussion that started this. Five guys standing around the gun shop debating this. Not a one of them had ever tested it. Yet all would have argued their side until they turned blue.Sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_in_Utah Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 We have always used these. Cheap, they work on any size barrel and leave nothing to worry about. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLH70 Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I would expect electricians tape to have an effect. Sticky, gooey and stretchy. I dunno, I've never seen or heard of anyone doing this. I guess with most tapes not a big deal, but with a little care it's not needed and I've hunted with shotguns in the rain. The tape is blown away by before the bullet leaves the barrel, and I only use it on my muzzle loaders to help keep the powder charge dry, never used any tape on a cartridge gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannow Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 A long time ago, in a galaxy far away, when I was in Air Cadets, and they were training us in the L1A1, they issued condoms (really) to stick over the flash supressor for all of those things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryinIN Posted November 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 I should try it again with them. I'm posting that here so there will be a record of it in case my wife finds boxes of the test articles in my range stuff and has questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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