Winchester Ranger T-Series Ammo

[BlueOvalFitter]

I prefer to EDC an M&P 2.0 FS  .40 caliber, or an M&P 1.0 FS .40 caliber, with Winchester JHP's. 

I have known this for awhile and decided to make a post here about it. I wonder if anyone else has noticed this?

In the pic below, the bullet on the left is a Winchester Ranger T-Series 40 S&W 180 gr. JHP, made in 2009 (Brown Box). The bullet on the right is the same titled bullet, but made in 2017 (Black Box). Do you notice the difference in the cavities? The bullet on the right looks more like an HST bullet. The bullet on the left looks like the more traditional Black Talon/SXT bullet. Things that make you go."Hmmmmm........"

[BarryinIN]

They change all the time.  In .45, I use CCI 230 grain Gold Dot, and have boxes bought not all that far apart with three slightly different cavities in the bullets.  

I asked about it, and that’s basically the answer I got:  They change all the time.  OK then. 

[BlueOvalFitter]

Thanks for the reply Barry. 

Back in the day I was using Winchester Silvertip exclusively. As the new JHP's came out, I was leap frogging from one brand to another. As time moves on, you seem to get wiser and learn things as you go. So, today, in SD ammo I like to use Winchester Ranger LE JHP's exclusively. 

In .357 SIG I use Ranger T-Series/SXT (sometimes PDX1), 9mm I use Ranger Bonded, and in .40 caliber, either Ranger T-Series/SXT or Ranger Bonded. I do have several boxes in each caliber in HST though.

[BarryinIN]

I use Ranger-T 127 grain in 9mm.  Ranger can be a pain to find sometimes, but worth it I think.  

[BlueOvalFitter]

I buy a lot of SD ammo from this company. They only charge me a $5 flat rate of shipping.

https://www.lawmens.com/

[BarryinIN]

Never heard of that place. Thanks. 

[BarryinIN]

I witnessed some gel testing this weekend.  
Winchester Ranger 9mm 127 +P+ was the first round tested. Gun used was a Glock 26.  It penetrated right to the end of the 18” block, and the bullet could’ve been used in an ad. 
 

Federal 9mm 124 HST std pressure did the same.  
 

Speer 38 Spl +P 135 Gold Dot from a 2” S&W went maybe 16” and also could’ve been used for a picture.  
 

I donated a round of GA Arms full power .38 Wadcutter that has been receiving some attention lately.   It penetrated the block and had only a slight riveting.  The key with this ammunition is it penetrates well, but also in a pretty straight line. 
 

An interesting thing to me was the rounds that penetrated the 18 gel block, JUST penetrated the gel block.  The bullets were always found on top of the plastic barrel the block was on, or on the ground next to it.  A pair of jeans was used to make the initial denim layers, with the excess draped over the back. Bullets would get through the gel, then have so little left they were stopped by that denim and dropped. 
 

The only thing that zipped through and kept going into the berm was some .357 158 XTP.